Things got testy between two North Bay city councillors Monday night. Chair of engineering and works Tanya Vrebosch ruled Derek Shogren out of order after he interrupted her. What may have led to the exchange was an earlier incident where Shogren was critical of a staff report on overtime in a city department. Vrebosch called it a cheap shot which resulted in Shogren to shoot back “that’s your opinion” and Vrebosch agreed. Later Vrebosch began a commentary where she defended how staff deal with overtime prompting Shogren to blurt out “what’s the question”. Vrebosch told her colleague as chair she was allowed to comment and ruled him out or order.